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    • #15407
      Diane
      Participant

      Hi Steve,

      I scanned this teenager who hyperextended his thumb during footy. Very tender dorsal aspect of MCPJ. When I was flexing his thumb, it looked like the joint was slightly widened compared to the right side. Also thought there was echogenic fluid within the joint, would this be blood? I was thinking back to your lectures where blood often means fracture? Could you get blood in the joint without having a fracture?

      I thought the collateral ligaments were NAD. Pt stated XR done a week prior elsewhere NAD.

      Thanks!

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    • #15448
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      Hi Diane,

      That looks exactly like a haemarthrosis.

      The capsular ligaments also look a bit hypo echoic and thick.

      You don’t need a fracture to get a haemarthrosis as any intra-articular injury can bleed into the joint.

      I always consider a fracture when I see a haemarthrosis, but it is not always present.

      The fact there is a haemarthrosis may indicate cross sectional imaging if the symptoms don’t resolve.

      Steve.

    • #15505
      Diane
      Participant

      Would there be any significance for the slightly widened joint compared to the asymptomatic left side or is this due to the extra blood in there?

      Thanks!

    • #15507
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      think the capsule ligaments looked a bit thick and hypo echoic,

      I think the capsule has been injured without a complete disruption.

      The injured capsule will account for the joint laxity / hyper-mobility.

      Steve.

    • #15734
      Diane
      Participant

      Does this laxity get better with time or does it remain like that?

      Thanks!

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