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    • #16043
      Xue Heng
      Participant

      Recently I came across some patients with shoulder pain, on the long axis of subscapularis tendon, I saw bony erosion medial to the lesser tubercle, with normal subscapularis tendon and no Color Doppler signal.
      Just like this. When I compare the contralateral side, similar bony erosion was detected, with no obvious symptoms. I just wonder the clinical significance of this finding and how should I report this?

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    • #16050
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      Hi Xue,

      So nice to hear from you,

      These are great quality images,

      Great to see such fantastic images coming out of Beijing,

      I would not expect any less from your skilful hands.

      This appearance is very similar to the post below,

      I see this pattern fairly commonly in a range of locations.

      I see it in subscap where your example is from, I also see it in supra and most commonly infra.

      The common thing with all of these examples is that the bony “erosion” is always located at exactly the point where the hyaline cartilage finishes and the enthesis begins. By definition this is where the joint capsule inserts and naturally this has an enthesis.
      The “erosion” is a type of synovial herniation pit at the capsule insertion.

      They are usually asymptomatic and I stumble upon them in normal volunteers and asymptomatic joints.

      Great images mate,

      I am missing mainland China and can’t wait for an opportunity to return,

      Keep enjoying the website and please post as many of your great cases as you wish,

      Happy scanning,

      Steve

    • #16100
      Xue Heng
      Participant

      Hi, Steve.
      Thank you very much for your kind and patient answer.
      We expect your next coming to China to give us lectures.
      Your lectures are the most wonderful one I ever had.
      This website is full of treasure for us to explore. I really appreciate your hard working.
      For this case, is this pit the same location of “bare area” in GH joint?
      Also, is this has something to do with impingement?
      For example, when internal rotation happens, soft tissue in this area impinge with coranoid process or someing else.
      Thank you again!

      Xue Heng

    • #16114
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      I agree Xue,

      This correlates to the “bare area” you think of on MRI especially the ones near the infra insertion,

      I am not sure they are due to impingement with the coracoid process in the subscap case,

      I wonder if mechanical stress on this part of the GH joint capsule may be a predisposing factor or if they are just a simple normal variant.

      Nice photo mate,

      Great to see your smiling face again!

      Steve

    • #16329
      Xue Heng
      Participant

      Thank you so much Steve 🙂

    • #16468
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      My pleasure mate,

      Please keep the great Beijing cases coming,

      I love your work,

      Steve

    • #16569
      Xue Heng
      Participant

      Sorry, Steve.
      There is still a question related to this topic.
      Except the clinical history of shoulder dislocation,
      how can we tell the difference between this normal finding and Hill-Sachs lesion?
      As we know, Hill-Sachs lesion is shown on US as bony defect of the humeral head.
      Is Hill-Sachs lesion located more medially? Or Hill-Sachs lesion is more deep and irregular?
      Please forgive me that I have so many questions.
      Thanks a lot, Steve.

    • #16589
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      It can be tricky to differentiate between one of these synovial herniation pits and a Hill Sachs deformity. But the history helps a lot. Hill sachs is always associated with trauma and most often dislocation so in the absence of this history you can be sure it is a normal finding. If there has been a dislocation it is more difficult as both options are viable. The Hill Sachs tends to be a broader defect as it is a punch fracture of the posterior humeral head and it is usually not located exactly at the location where the hyaline cartilage ends and the enthesis begins.

      It is this exact location that makes the synovial herniation pit a specific diagnosis.

      There will be occasional times where i am faced with a history of trauma / dislocation and I am uncertain if I am looking at a herniation pit or a Hill Sachs.
      In this occasional case cross sectional imaging like CT or MRI will come to my rescue.

      Steve

    • #16610
      Xue Heng
      Participant

      Thank you very much, Steve.
      No imaging modality is perfect.
      Sometimes we have to rely on X-ray, CT or MR to make a more definite diagnosis.

    • #16618
      Stephen Bird
      Keymaster

      Yes, that is certainly the case,

      We should use our various modalities in combination to arrive at the correct answer.

      You are right when you say all tests have strengths, limitations and weaknesses.

      Different modalities can certainly compliment each other,

      Steve.

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